Modern Dadhood

The Father My Father Never Was | Andre Jalil on Absentee Dads and Black Fatherhood in America

Episode Summary

How often does your kid do something so funny, cute, smart, or outrageous that you wish you could capture it and share it with the world? (And how often do you follow through on that?) Multi-talented content creator and father of one, Andre Jalil, is a master of documenting life with his-two year-old daughter Lyric Sanaa on video. The result is a treasure trove of hilarious and heart melting content that leaves no doubt that Andre, who grew up without his own father, embraces and adores his role as Lyric’s dad.

Episode Notes

How often does your kid do something so funny, cute, smart, or outrageous that you wish you could capture it and share it with the world? (And how often do you follow through on that?) Multi-talented content creator and father of one, Andre Jalil, is a master of documenting life with his-two year-old daughter Lyric Sanaa on video. The result is a treasure trove of hilarious and heart melting content that leaves no doubt that Andre, who grew up without his own father, embraces and adores his role as Lyric’s dad.


Most episodes of Modern Dadhood center around topics or themes that hosts Adam and Marc have some degree of experience with… but not this one. Episode 22 finds the guys welcoming guest Andre Jalil, father of one daughter (2 year old Lyric Sanaa), content creator, influencer, music producer, writer, musician, and emcee, to talk about growing up without a father at home, and how Andre uses his social media platform to show aspiring dads how fulfilling and fun fatherhood can be. The guys discuss:

•  The perception and narrative of the Black father
•  Absentee fathers
•  The desire to be present and involved when Andre had kids
•  Inspiring other dads and dads-to-be via social media
•  Protecting your kids without being overprotective
•  Building a family legacy
•  The importance of introducing prominent Black artists and historical figures to our kids
•  Rewriting the history books
•  Developing a plan before having kids. And staying present and available even if you don’t yet have a plan.


A second installment of hit mega-hit Talkin' With Toddlers carries Adam through a range of emotions including giddiness, excitement, pride, confusion, disbelief, and rage... and pleases Marc to no end.


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LINKS:
Andre Jalil on Instagram
The Dad Chronicles on YouTube
Andre’s song “It’s You”
Andre Jalil on Spotify
Andre Jalil Visual Art Store
Joy Marilie
Caspar Babypants
Red Vault Audio
Spencer Albee

Episode Transcription

Marc:

Adam.

Adam:

Hi Marc!

Marc:

What's up my friend?

Adam:

It's Thursday night.

Marc:

Oh, thanks for reminding me.

Adam:

TGIF in the morning.

Marc:

Yeah.

Adam:

And then TGIF on television tomorrow night.

Marc:

Oh, if only.

Adam:

Step by Step, Boy Meets World, Hangin' with Mr. Cooper.

Marc:

Oh man.

Adam:

Well, Family Matters.

Marc:

There's Family Matters. Nostalgia on multiple levels. Anyway, what show is this that we're doing?

Adam:

This is Modern Dadhood, of course. It's an ongoing conversation about the joys challenges and general insanity of being a dad in this moment.

Marc:

That's right. And I'm so happy to be here yet again with my good friend, Adam Flaherty. My name is Marc Checket. And I'm a dad of twin boy toddlers.

Adam:

And you just said my name and I am a dad of two daughters, six years old and three years old. Marc, it's rare that we center an episode around a theme that neither of us can really relate to at all. But when I came across our guest for today, I knew instantly that he'd be a great fit for the show that it would be an awesome conversation. And it was clear that he's got a really powerful story to share.

Marc:

Yeah. Yeah.

Adam:

So I stumbled across Andre Jalil on Instagram of all places because he posts a lot of fatherhood themed content. He's got a two year old daughter named Lyric Sanaa. Who's absolutely adorable and hilarious and clearly very intelligent for her age. And what I love about Andre's content is that it's not just cute pictures of Lyric. He films, these super clever little sketches with her. I mean, you've seen some of them.

Marc:

Yeah, yeah, no, they're adorable. She's without a doubt adorable. And is definitely the star of a lot of those videos. Well, it's called The Dad Chronicles. It's like he's chronicling his adventures.

Adam:

I think what's so great is that through the humor, you can feel how much love there is and how passionate he is about being a father. And when I really started paying attention to the content and digging a little bit deeper into the stuff that he's posted, I can see that beyond being this social media presence, Andre is a multitalented guy. And he also happened to grow up without his father in the picture. I know that a lot of people do and that's not terribly uncommon, but you and I were both so fortunate to grow up with fathers in the house who were present and available. And it's just not a circumstance that we can relate to in any way.

Marc:

Yeah. I remember back when you started talking about Modern Dadhood at the very beginning, and I started thinking about my perspective as a dad. And immediately came to that realization that a lot of what I knew about being a dad, I got from my own dad. And we've talked about that on the show, a bunch of times. It really only hit me then that there's plenty of fathers out there who didn't have that same situation that I did growing up. It sounds stupid to say it out loud, but it's just not something I really thought about until I started really thinking about being a dad and having these conversations with you and so on and so forth.

Adam:

Yeah. That's why this is so great. That's why I love doing Modern Dadhood with you is that we get to learn so much from our guests, and see the world through their eyes and learn from their experiences even when they're totally different from our own experiences growing up. So I'm ecstatic. And I know that that you're excited about it too. To welcome influencer, visual artist, musical producer, performer, devoted husband and father to one daughter Mr. Andre Jalil to Modern Dadhood. Andre Jalil, thank you so much for joining us, man. It's nice to have you.

Andre:

Thanks for having me. I appreciate you guys having me on your show and I'm excited to have this conversation.

Adam:

Tell us about your family.

Andre:

My family. So it's myself, Joy is my wife and Lyric Sanaa is my daughter.

Adam:

So you've obviously got multiple talents and passions that keep you busy full time, but the way that I found you is via your Instagram page.

Andre:

Right. My wife started with the followers and she opened the page for Lyric and I'm not sure what she had envisioned for it, but her page started to catch on. And then here I am with just a normal page. And I wasn't really much of a social media guy, but I tried a few skits and it started to catch on. And we've gone viral a couple of times. It just seems to have taken off and we have a good time with it, when it comes. And so yes it's the Jackson crew.

Adam:

You shared with me that your social content is centered around the perception of the black father in America, in your words. What in your experience is the perception or narrative around the black father in 2020?

Andre:

So a lot of times it seems like from the media there's this thing that the father isn't there, like just were absent. And I've seen cases where we are absent. My father was absent. My stepfather ended up being absent later. And I've seen situations where I have some uncles who were there. I have cousins who had parents who weren't there. I have cousins where I don't know who their father was. And a lot of that has happened in the black family in America. I was raised in the '80s. I was born in '79, I'm 41. And so in the '80s, it seems like there was this time with drugs and imprisonment, that it was a big deal for the black family. And so I think that that has carried on into today. So what I'm excited to do on my page is to show the fun side, we all know that there's a difference between the fun side of fatherhood and parenting. And then you have the other side where it's like that pressure and that fear of protecting your family and then all of these different things. I don't know what that was from the other side. My father was, he was in prison actually, but we didn't have the father son relationship. So for me, it's almost like I'm improvising.

Marc:

So just to talk a little bit more about your upbringing, where did you look for other male mentors in your life? Where, where did you look for that inspiration to be a mentor to you?

Andre:

So my mom, we went to the church and she was always trying to get guys to talk to me when I went through different phases of my life. But I always thought those church guys were really corny. It wasn't one of those things where I was looking, my mom always said, I had this thing with men, where I didn't like men, and I'm not exactly sure what she saw. But I had a karate teacher that I thought was really cool and he was smooth. And he would say things that other men wouldn't say around me. And I always felt like I was getting an inside look and being an adult. And he was cool. And then he ended up dying of cancer, while I was a teenager. So he was gone and my father was addicted to drugs. And when he rehabbed, we actually developed a relationship later in my life, well into my twenties. And it was actually cool to talk to him. You know what I'm saying? I didn't get the fathering from him. But when we actually had conversations, I was aware of everything I was missing. When you talk to your mom, those conversations are very different. But when I talked to my father and it's like we just hit it off and it was just like, "Oh man," it was like, "where have you been all this time? We could have been having these conversations like years and years ago." And when I look at my daughter, I'm looking forward to being that guy. But of course my daughter is two years old and I have a long way to go before we can have those types of conversations, but it's still fun. I'm excited to be the guy that she talks to.

Adam:

So how do you think that your upbringing shaped who you are as a dad today?

Andre:

So there were a lot of things, when you're a man and you have that hindsight, you look back. There were so many things that were missing when you not have that like the birthday parties. A lot of times it's the mom takes over and she does what she has to do. And she's always there. I want to be that guy that's always there. So sometimes my wife, my daughter, they get ready to run, to go outside and I'm like, "I'll go." Even if I'm not ready, I'll throw a shirt on some shorts on and I want to go, I don't want my daughter to have a memory of, "Well, my mom took me everywhere." There was none of those things. My mom taught me how to ride a bike. A woman taught me how to tie a tie. For my daughter I want her to have that balance. And so sometimes I feel like, I don't know if I overcompensate as a dad and wanting to be involved, I change the diapers and it's all excitement. It's a lesson, but it's like, I'm happy to do it. I don't want her to ever feel like it was all mom. That's how it affects me. I have to be that dad. I want her to be proud of her dad. I want her to be like these women that you see when it's their father's birthday or the anniversary. And this is my dad, "I love him so much." I just want to live to see that thing, when she has her first post where she loves her dad. And I think I'll just be happy. My heart will be leaping with joy.

Marc:

So you have this intro video on your YouTube channel. And you say the line, I hope to inspire aspiring fathers and brothers like me who grew up with absentee fathers. So you clearly have a mission. Just hearing you talk about it's so evident, but I wonder, can you talk a little bit about where that line comes from? Can you talk about when that first started to take root in your mind, sort of when you felt that call to take up the job of not just being the dad that you didn't have, but inspiring others.

Andre:

Yeah. So that's the part about the social media, social media is like a lot of people wake up first thing they see they have these videos. Like men may not follow me, but their wives will follow. And then the wives will share the video with the husband. And so what inspired me was when I realized that I was inspiring other people is when I hang out with my friends, and they were like, "Aw, man, I saw that video." Like a lot of times women will respond to your videos, but the men won't. And when you see them, "They'll say, Oh, that video..." And I'm like, "I didn't realize that you saw the video. I didn't realize..." They're like, "You're my favorite couple." And the way you raise your daughter, I want to do that, the sign language. And I realize that people are being inspired, whether you know, they are or not. And so when I have friends who have kids after me, that was the inspiration, to have the humor and to use that to inspire other people.

Marc:

It's super interesting that you hear from other dads that they love your content, but it's their wives or women who are engaging with it. Do you think that's just a function of the different ways that men and women use social media? Or do you think that's more of a fear of not appearing masculine by engaging with the kind of content that you're creating?

Andre:

I think it's a mixture of both. Like when my wife wanted to create a page for my daughter, I wasn't like a big fan of the idea, but she went ahead and did it. She ended up giving me two options for her name. And so I said, "All right, I'll pick one." And you know, it's done what it's done. And so I think it's a mixture of both that women are just a lot more friendly and lovable when it comes to other people's content. Lyric has cyber aunties and women that I don't know, they follow and they're in different continents and it's like really funny.

Marc:

Sometimes with guys, you really just got to squeeze him to get the emotion out.

Andre:

Yeah. Yeah.

Marc:

I love the fact that you use humor because I think that's a good device to... I don't know whether you're doing it consciously or not. It's a good device to break down barriers to start talking about real true, honest, sincere things. And I think that's one of the things I love about your content across the board, is that yeah, a lot of it's very funny, but once in a while, there's these really great moments of just beautiful sincerity.

Andre:

Just real moments.

Marc:

Real true moments. And there's so many videos that I watched. I'm like that's happened to me. And some of those moments are frustrating, but some of those moments are so cute, and I love them and I welcome them. You've got this fantastic song, It's You. And you wrote this song for Lyric. There's a lot of heavy lyrics in that song. It's a beautiful song, but there are some heavy lyrics in that song. And there's one in particular that stuck out to both Adam and me, you say, "Honestly, we felt a weight bringing you into this world." Where did that feeling come from for you guys? But also how did you overcome it?

Andre:

So I don't know if it's a thing that to ever overcome. Like I said, we'll both try our best to show you how to navigate because that's pretty much what it's about. And when you look at what's going on right now, across America, from our leadership down, it's scary. The things that are going on and how people are at war with each other, they have this special on Netflix about this doctor with the girls with the gymnast's. And then they have this doctor that's abused all these women.

Marc:

Is it called Athlete A.

Andre:

Yes. That's what it's called Athlete A. Yes. And it's just infuriating to imagine that would be my daughter. You have these things with Weinstein, and you have the trafficking, R Kelly and these things, and it's just scary. Those are the things, "We felt a weight bringing you into this world." Sometimes when I share these thoughts with guys I work with and they're like, "You just can't think about that." You got to leave it alone. You just do your best. But I do know when I was young and I wanted to go to the movies with my friends. And I'm from Harlem. I grew up in the city. I grew up in the ghetto. So I'm all the way uptown in Harlem. And I've had friends in Brooklyn and I want to go to Brooklyn to go to movies with my friend. And my mom was like, "I want the phone number to the movie theater. I want the phone number to your friend's mother. I want the phone number to his father." And I'm like, "I don't know all these people's phone numbers. What do you want..." And I just thought that she was being over the top, like super protective. But now I'm just like, "She's not spending a night in anyone's house. I want to know if I'm taking it to a party I'm popping up." You know what I mean? I just want to protect her and be there.

Adam:

Yeah. It's tough, man. I'm right with you. As soon as my daughters were born, like my job is to protect this being. But I also want to give her the space to live and experience things on her own. But at times it's like a paradox because you want to be the person that explains the bad things in the world. But you also don't want to be the person that tells your kids about all the bad things that are in the world. And so it's like, "Okay, if they have to learn about this, I really want to be the one." Parents, we want to be the ones who are there when it happens or who conveys. It is a bit of paradox.

Marc:

Andre. I've noticed that the word legacy pops up a lot in your writing and in your music. What does that word legacy represent to you?

Andre:

Legacy is raised by a single mom. I remember when I graduated high school and it was time for college and my mom looks at me and she says, "I didn't put anything away for you if go to college, you have to pay for it yourself." And I went to school and I paid for it myself. And so for me, when we were expecting Lyric, we bought this house out in New Jersey, and I want to show her one day how to trade options and how to live off the dividends and not taking money. So when I talk about legacy, I always say, we sit around the fireplace. My wife is always like, "What is it with you and fireplace?" If we could sit in front of the fireplace and have hot chocolate. And then she can take that and sit down with her family have hot chocolate in front of the fireplace. “I married a black woman with a master's degree, natural hair and other factors that matter to me.” And the natural hair thing even is for a lot of times where I grew up, a lot of times women, they straighten their hair and all these things, which is fine. But I wanted to give my daughter a shot with how her hair grows out of her head naturally and a woman that can show her how to do it. How her hair works and how she could do her little curls, and have her little hairstyles and make her decision.

Adam:

Well, it sounds like you're saying there's a financial component to it, an educational component to it, but also just family traditions to be carried on.

Andre:

Absolutely, absolutely. And that's a big thing the tradition all of those things, all of the components that you said financially education and opportunity.

Marc:

It seems like music, art, performance, these are just parts of your identity. And it seems like throughout a lot of your videos you're talking about or listening to Erika Badu or there's you mentioned Stevie Wonder and there's a video of you guys watching Misty Copeland dance. And then in your artwork as well, you've got all these portraits that you make of there was Frederick Douglas in there and there was Martin Luther King Jr. and then Coby and all these other... Those figures are clearly very important to you. Can you talk a little bit about why it's important for Lyric to have black heroes and historical figures, and musicians and so on and so forth in her life to look up to.

Andre:

If you listen to someone like Viola Davis and you're listening to an interview and she said the first time I knew I wanted to be an actor was when she saw a black actor. And so like, you'll say, I'll look at someone who was like a basketball player. I saw Dr. Jael, Michael Jordan was very inspiration... I played a lot of basketball when I was younger. And Michael Jordan, I tried moves after watching Michael Jordan. It's not like we steer her just towards black, but I want to make sure that she sees it. I want it to be normal for her to see it.

Adam:

Yeah. That's what it sounds like. What's important is like what you just said. It's the diversity, it's the breadth of the perspectives of different walks of life in the world. Man, when I learned about Christopher Columbus, I'll never forget thinking like, "What a sham?" It was all such a lie. Like what is it-

Andre:

Right. Be like why?

Marc:

And to what end. Right. Exactly. Why. Do you have a video that you've created with Lyric Sanaa that you're particularly proud of, or that always makes you laugh every time you see it?

Andre:

I have this video I did with her and I called it uncle two teeth. Snapchat has the filters I'm making the noise with my mouth. And so I recorded her, looking at me, making the noise with my mouth, but there's a lot of favorites. It's just sometimes I let the people say which one, which one is your guys' favorites. If you have one, is there one that you can remember that stood out.

Adam:

Before you joined the Zoom, we were talking about some of the ones that we were watching and we both were thinking about the one where you were in the studio, and she was with you and she kept starting the beat and every time you like-

Andre:

Now that you mentioned it. Yes. That is one of my favorites is because she's laughing at me and she tried to press that... So that's the MPK and she presses the stop and the start. It has a stop, the play and a record button. So I had this one where I started making the beat, playing the keys and she was like, "There you go dada." And I'm like, "Listen to her. 'There you go.'" And so when I showed her how to press stop and start, she was so excited that she could stop it.

Adam:

Yeah. That's funny. She's hilarious. Even at two years old, you can see that she's got this sort of comedic timing and she just understands, she understands humor.

Andre:

Yeah. She gets it. And it's just so much I look at my wife and I'm like, "She gets that from me." And I'm like, "Yeah, she gets that from me." And like, "She gets..."

Adam:

Well, you're clearly leading by example with all of your creative content in terms of being a present, and involved, and passionate and loving dad. But what would you say to someone of any ethnicity who maybe just learned that they're going to be a first time dad and might be totally overwhelmed and thinking about just checking out?

Andre:

Oh, it is a challenge. But I feel like a lot of times when men do check out, it's not necessarily because of the kid, it may be because of the spouse, or wife, or girlfriend, or whatever it may be. When I was dating and was sowing my wild oats. One of the things that scared me to death. I was like, "Man, I don't have any intentions on marrying this girl. What if she comes back pregnant? What does that mean for me as a father?" Because I knew I always wanted to be there. And my dream was to do what we have now. Like the house, the daughter, we bought a house on the dead end street. I always wanted that. And a lot of times, if you don't implement a plan, that's how you check out. If you're with somebody you didn't want to be with and you had a kid and you decided to just have a family because of the kid. It's like putting the cart before the horse. So that's what I would say. I would say plan it and stick with your plan and don't get crazy.

Adam:

Andre, where can people find you online?

Andre:

Well, on Instagram, Andre Jalil, A-N-D-R-E J-A-L-I-L. You could find me anywhere. My YouTube page is under Andre Jalil. And I have The Dad Chronicles, my family stuff and my family content, family stuff. And I also have my song. It's You on Spotify, iTunes, any one of those major outlets for music, you can find the song I had for my daughter and YouTube.

Adam:

Talk about legacy, man. That's that will be in your family for generations.

Andre:

That's going to be something and she likes to watch the video. She also watches our wedding video. So sometimes she wants It's You, and then it's the wedding video after that?

Marc:

Andre. That's awesome. It really has been a pleasure speaking with you. Thank you so much for your time. Truly we wish nothing but the best for you and your family.

Andre:

Adam, Marc, you guys are the best, maybe in the future, I'll be on your show again.

Marc:

Yes. We'll check back with The Dad Chronicles and see what's developing with Lyric.

Andre:

For sure.

Marc:

And now back for its second ever appearance on Modern Dadhood the segment Talking with Toddlers.

Adam:

That's exciting.

Marc:

Was that too much?

Adam:

It's the sophomoric effort.

Marc:

Yeah. It made an appearance some time ago. Gosh, I wish I knew exactly when because my kids are now saying a lot more. They were saying words, but they weren't stringing words together to say sentences. So this is going to be a little bit different for you. It's going to be a little bit, I think it's going to be a little bit harder for you.

Adam:

I'm confident that I'll do pretty well here.

Marc:

You think you're going to do all right.

Adam:

Yeah. I think I'll do it all right. Haven't heard them speak a lot, but I do know a lot of the subject matter that you're dealing with at home. And so I think that I'll be able to narrow things down pretty quickly, but let's hear it.

Marc:

See this is why you're a good contestant on this because you're really using the old noggin up there.

Adam:

Yep.

Marc:

For our listeners who aren't familiar, here's how this is going to work. I'm going to play for Adam clips of my toddlers saying words or phrases. I will then offer four possible answers as to what they are actually saying. Adam's objective is to then choose the one. Correct answer.

Adam:

I'm giddy, man.

Marc:

Okay. Clip number one.

Adam:

You don't even need to give me the options, but I want to hear them.


[“New special treat.”]
 

Marc:

All right. Let's let everybody hear it one more time. Is he saying, A, do brushing teeth, B, new special treat, C, blue puzzle piece, or D, can you believe Mother Love Bone's only full length studio album was released 30 years ago this month.

Adam:

I don't know Mother Love Bone but that's a great band name.

Marc:

That's what Pearl Jam was before Pearl Jam.

Adam:

Oh, is that right?


[“New special treat.”]


Adam:

I don't need to think about it. It's A do brushing your teeth.

Marc:

Oh, I'm so sorry.

Adam:

What?

Marc:

I'm so sorry. That's wrong.

Adam:

What is it? The special treat one. What is it?

Marc:

It's new special treat. New special treat.

Adam:

Let me hear it one more time.

Marc:

All right. Let's do it again.

Adam:

Because I'm afraid I beg to differ.


[“New special treat.”]
 

Adam:

New special treat. What was the treat?

Marc:

We gave him some really fun fork and spoon combination that are like they're shaped like construction vehicles.

Adam:

Oh, sounds great.

Marc:

So they're like a old bulldozer but it's actually a fork.

Adam:

Fantastic.

Marc:

Okay. Next one. Oh man. I'm sorry. You didn't get that one. All right.

Adam:

No missed it.

[“Um… Eating some ice cream!”]
 

Marc:
"Uhm." All right. Almost everything they say begins with, "Uhm." I should've said that up front. All right. All right. Is he saying, A, meeting some nice teams, B, feeding dumb mice cheese, C, eating some ice cream, or D, I don't care what NPR says in no way is irregardless a word.

[“Um… Eating some ice cream!”]
 

Adam:

It's D the NPR one. I'm going to take a ding for that. And then I'm going to retract and say, it's, "Uhm, eating some ice cream." C.

Marc:

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

Adam:

Yes.

Marc:

You nailed it. Nice man. Really good job. Really, good job. All right. This is the last one. And what you're going to hear is one of my kids says the phrase, and then the other one kind of repeats it a second later. So you can actually hear both of-

Adam:

A hint. 
 

[“I’m forking it. I’m forking it.”]


Adam:

Can I have it again?

Marc:

The second one says it, very quiet.

[“I’m forking it. I’m forking it.”]
 

Adam:

I feel like this is when they send ghost hunters into a place and they just leave a recorder going all night and then analyze the wave form. And it's like, “Ah foo keen it" Oh, I got it.

Marc:

Okay. Are they saying, A, uncorking it, B, I'm forking it, C, I'm floor cleaning, or D, for the love of all that's holy wear a mask.

Adam:

Man. I was certain that toddler A was complaining that toddler B was poking him and saying, "He's poking me."

Marc:

Ooh. All right.

Adam:

So could I have it one more time now? Because now I got a little bit of thinking to do. 

 

[“I’m forking it. I’m forking it.”]


Adam:

It's the floor cleaning, it's floor cleaning.

Marc:

Final answer?

Adam:

Can you tell me what that whole option was?

Marc:

A, uncorking it, B, I'm forking it, C, I'm floor cleaning, or D for the love of all that's holy wear a mask.

Adam:

It's C again. I'm certain.

Marc:

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're wrong. I'm sorry.

Adam:

What??

Marc:

Sorry.

Adam:

What!!

Marc:

Sorry.

Adam:

What was it.

Marc:

I gave you a tiny hint in question number one.

Adam:

I don't even remember what umber one was now. It was like 20 minutes ago.

Marc:

New special treat. He said, "I'm forking it."

Adam:

"I'm forking it."

Marc:

They were taking their new little bulldozer slash fork and they were just going through their yogurt saying I'm forking it, forking it. Admittedly, I became a little bit jaded after the first question, because I feel like you hornswoggled me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is what happens when you're talking with toddlers.

Adam:

And once again, we roll into the closing credits of Modern Dadhood. 

 

Marc:

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Adam:

Keep going. More.

Marc:

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Marc:

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Adam:

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Marc:

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Adam:

Do the one, two punch. Give us both.

Marc:

Great idea.

Adam:

And a subscribe while you're there.

Marc:

Great idea. The one, two, three punch.

Adam:

Send us an email at hey H-E-Y@moderndadhood.com if you'd like we love interacting with you.

Marc:

I'd love to hear an idea for a topic.

Adam:

Do our work for us. Big thanks to Caspar Babypants, to Spencer Albee, to Bubby Lewis, all for the amazing music in our podcast. And thanks to the amazing and talented Pete Morse at Red Vault Audio for making us sound good. Despite recording… in a basement in a garage tonight, right?

Marc:

I'm not in a garage. Look at the picture. Do you see a garage?

Adam:

I see a shelf full of VHS tapes. Also thank you for this-

Marc:

Now who is coming down your stairs during the thank you for listening?

Adam:

It's the wife. Do you want to say thank you to the listener?

Sarah:

Thank you, listener!

Marc:

That was great!

Adam:

That was great. It was solid.